Дата: Суббота, 16.05.2009, 02:57 | Сообщение # 132
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Одна из английских форумчанок (та, которая передавала цветы), поделилась своими впечатлениями:
Imagine every emotion you have ever seen Toby play in his characters and they were there last night!
Starting with charming, warm and loving, then flattering to his wife, passionate and sexy, vulnerable...................... then gradually progressing to dogmatic, autocratic, becoming angry, unreasonable, hateful and unforgiving, in denial, becoming hysterical and tearful, pleading and seeking forgiveness..................... all in vain.............. get your hankies out laydeez!!!
His character doesn't deserve it, but you can't help it!!! sniff
Well that's the dramatic version, here is a slightly calmer interpretation.
I haven't seen this story for 15 years, so although the essentials of the story I still remember, the detail had gone, I therefore didn't mind that they brought the story to Victorian London, called the husband 'Thomas' and made him a member of Parliament, in fact a member of the cabinet.
Nora his wife, appears flighty and carefree, who loves her husband with great passion and he appears to do the same but in a slightly condescending way, in that he sees his wife as someone who's role in life is to be wife and mother who looks pretty. This is in fact the view also of an old school friend (of Nora's) who comes to visit, in need of job and Nora asks Thomas to help. Nora confides in her that in fact the new house they have just moved into and Thomas' new job is relief after a few years of penny pinching and worrying about Thomas' mental health which failed to such an extent that he could not work and basically become a prisoner in his own home. They had no money and to save his reputation needed to take him to Italy, away from prying eyes, for this she needed money, her father left no money when he died so she borrowed, by a loan, from the man who, at that time, was in the role that Thomas now had. 'Kelman' (Chris Eccleston) then bitter because of losing his job wants Nora to persuade Thomas to put a good word in the press for him, to help him regain his good name, which Nora can not persuade Thomas to do, so the story of the loan eventually comes out and as Nora had obtained permission for the loan by signing her father's name as guarantee, even though he had just died therefore she had committed fraud . (Otherwise the permission of her husband would be needed. ) Hence Kelman intended to destroy both Thomas and Nora by going to the press and telling of her fraudulent activity. Nora hopes when Thomas finds out he will realise that she made a mistake but did it because she loved him and saved his life, reputation and career by doing so............................ but he doesn't! Initially, he tells her he can not love her anymore, then tells her within the house she will live alone, without him and the children (because she is a bad influence to them) and in public they will still be the devoted couple. Nora tries to get him to understand why she did it and refers to the talk they had had that if anything happened to them as Kelman, they would support each other and stick together, but when Thomas thought it was happening he couldn't! Then they receive a message that Kelman is not pursuing the matter and has returned the paperwork of the loan. When Thomas realises his life and reputation is safe, he says he forgives Nora and all is well. Nora realises he never loved her for herself and leaves him.....................................
So you can see where all the emotions come into the story, Toby is amazing, playing every change of characterisation brilliantly, the flip from charm to anger is very abrupt and quite scary, when you are that close! His actions are dramatic and forceful and his change to passionate and sexy quite charming initially but you begin to realise he only sees his wife as a pretty thing and your feelings change to Thomas, just as his behaviour starts to make Nora realise he will not understand when the story of the loan is made known and their happy life would be over.
Initially Toby was dressed in Victorian white shirt, without collar and sleeves rolled up and black dress trousers but no jacket ...................... very attractive.................... later we see him in Victorian morning suit with pinstripe trousers and long black jacket. The hair and moustache is as we have seen it and as I was in the balcony I had to notice that he still has the most amazing head of hair, considering some guys, long before the ageToby has reached, are getting a little thing on top! Love that hair, it was great to see the real colour!
Gillian Anderson was very good, fluffed some lines in the first act, I think it was spoken a little fast and she tripped over them, but as the play progressed that passed. Chris Eccleston, he seemed a little flat initially and seemed to be just reading his lines but when the play progressed to where he arrives at the house drunk and is confronted by woman he always loved, who turns out to be Nora's friend Christine, he is much more passionate. (Christine is the one who persuades him to stop blackmailing Nora. ) Tara as Christine, seemed to remind ome of someone and it has just occured to me, it is her character in TOWH!
I need to go and see it again, to pay a little more attention to the characters other than Thomas/Toby, although I'm not sure I can!!
The applause at the end of the play was fantastic and actually I thought we would get them back for an encore, but ................... no.
Дата: Суббота, 16.05.2009, 18:10 | Сообщение # 139
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Просто первая рецензия была странная.
Она не странная - просто это видение поклонницы Экклстона, которая весь спектакль смотрела через призму восприятия своего любимого актёра. То, что Тоби в некоторых местах переигрывал, отметила и его поклонница - его герой в какие-то моменты был чересчур самовлюблён и самодоволен. Только в одном случае это было воспринято со знаком плюс, а в другом - со знаком минус. А вообще хотелось бы почитать эту адаптацию пьесы (она и сейчас уже продаётся в каком-то интернет-магазине, а с 20-го числа можно будет её заказать и через Донмар). Просто общая канва конечно сохранена, но много всяких мелких изменений - типа, у героя Тоби проблемы со здоровьем были не физические, а ментальные , мда... да и Нору он называет не своей птичкой, а почему-то мышкой.
Дата: Суббота, 16.05.2009, 19:01 | Сообщение # 140
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Нору он называет не своей птичкой, а почему-то мышкой.
Мышкой-Норушкой ?
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То, что Тоби в некоторых местах переигрывал, отметила и его поклонница - его герой в какие-то моменты был чересчур самовлюблён и самодоволен. Только в одном случае это было воспринято со знаком плюс, а в другом - со знаком минус.
Это индивидуальное восприятие, я на такие моменты стараюсь внимание не обращать, основываюсь на своих впечатлениях. Правда, в данном случае врядли они у меня появятся
Сообщение отредактировал tnch50 - Суббота, 16.05.2009, 19:02
Дата: Суббота, 16.05.2009, 19:23 | Сообщение # 141
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А я (тока не смейтесь ) всё думала и думала, что же не так с нынешними Тобиными усами - почему в РГ он с похожими усами несусветный красавЕц, а здесь...даже и не знаю, что сказать. И наконец поняла - в РГ у него остаётся бритый участок под носом, а здесь - нет.
Дата: Суббота, 16.05.2009, 20:01 | Сообщение # 142
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Я не сомневалась, что отзывы поклонников будут восторженными. Читать их - одно наслаждение! Но мне очень не терпится узнать мнение критиков. Они, конечно, тоже люди и бывают пристрастны, но всё же